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    18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

    Editor’s Note: We are not opposed to vaccines. They have done much good. But there are risks and this article describes them masterfully, especially in regards to those for COVID. There are varying definitions of what a “vaccine ” is and we are not sure these even meet the more rigorous definitions. Modifying RNA for immunity is an ingenious idea, but we don’t know if it was done right and if all the ramifications were considered. Certainly not thoroughly tested/questioned.

    The views and opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Citizens Journal

    By Christian Elliot 

    A few friends have asked my thoughts on the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.

    All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.

    Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.

    As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.

    I’m not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I’ve read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can’t make sense of these covid vaccines.

    THREE GROUND RULES FOR DISCUSSION

    If you care to engage on this topic with me, excellent.

    Here are the rules…

    I am more than happy to correspond with you if…

    1. You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.

    2. You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.

    3. You make your points using sound logic and don’t hide behind links or the word “science.”

    If you do respond, and you break any of those rules, your comments will be ignored/deleted.

    With that out of the way, let me say this…

    I don’t know everything, but so far no one has been able to answer the objections below.

    So here are the reasons I’m opting out of the covid vaccine.

    #1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

    The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

    First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.

    The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.

    If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.

    No liability. No trust.

    Here’s why…

    #2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES

    The four major companies who are making these covid vaccines are/have either:

    1. Never brought a vaccine to market before covid (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).

    2. Are serial felons (Pfizer, and Astra Zeneca).

    3. Are both (Johnson & Johnson).

    Moderna had been trying to “Modernize our RNA” (thus the company name)–for years, but had never successfully brought ANY product to market–how nice for them to get a major cash infusion from the government to keep trying.

    In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death–see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and Opioids as a few examples.

    If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market, when they can be sued, why would we trust any product where they have NO liability?

    In case it hasn’t sunk in, let me reiterate…3 of the 4 covid vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.

    Let me reiterate this point:

    Given the free pass from liability, and the checkered past of these companies, why would we assume that all their vaccines are safe and made completely above board?

    Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?

    To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive, unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.

    No. I don’t trust them.

    No liability. No trust.

    Here’s another reason why I don’t trust them.

    #3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES

    There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.

    In the 1960’s, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.

    In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren’t necessary back then.

    In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.

    After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

    For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960’s.

    You can read a summary of this history/science here.

    Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:

    • In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

    • In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

    • In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

    • In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.

    The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

    The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

    The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

    When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a “cytokine storm” (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

    Here’s the lingering issue…

    The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.

    In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA “vaccines” been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I’m sure they figured that out.

    Except they don’t know if they have…

    #4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS

    When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval), among the many “Data Gaps” they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.

    They simply don’t know–i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they’ve made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) as previous attempts at such products.

    As Joseph Mercola points out…

    Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?”

    If that’s not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data–i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:

    • Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55

    • Pregnant or lactating mothers

    • Auto-immune conditions

    • Immunocompromised individuals

    • No data on transmission of covid

    • No data on preventing mortality from covid

    • No data on duration of protection from covid

    Hard to believe right?

    In case you think I’m making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively. The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48 respectively.

    For now let’s turn our eyes to the raw data the vaccine makers used to submit for emergency use authorization.

    #5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS

    Would you like to see the raw data that produced the “90% and 95% effective” claims touted in the news?

    Me too…

    But they won’t let us see that data.

    As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny.

    There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”

    Wait…what?

    Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?

    Could they not test those “suspected but unconfirmed” cases to find out if they had covid?

    Apparently not.

    Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?

    Can we only guess they didn’t test because it would mess up their “90-95% effective” claims?

    Where’s the FDA?

    Would it not be prudent for the FDA, to expect (demand) that the vaccine makers test people who have “covid-like symptoms,” and release their raw data so outside, third-parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?

    I mean it’s only every citizen of the world we’re trying to get to take these experimental products…

    Why did the FDA not require that? Isn’t that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?

    Good question.

    Foxes guarding the hen house?

    Seems like it.

    No liability. No trust.

    #6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING

    Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data.

    In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now–for ANY population.

    Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?

    Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky “data gaps” before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?

    Well…that would make sense, but to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point…

    #7: NO INFORMED CONSENT

    What most who are taking the vaccine don’t know is that because these products are still in clinical trials, anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial.

    They are part of the experiment.

    Those (like me) who do not take it, are part of the control group.

    Time will tell how this experiment works out.

    But, you may be asking, if the vaccines are causing harm, wouldn’t we be seeing that all over the news?

    Surely the FDA would step in and pause the distribution?

    Well, if the adverse events reporting system was working, maybe things would be different.

    #8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

    According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) – read page 6 at the link above.

    While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.

    “VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.”

    And those numbers don’t include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy.

    If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,00 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

    Bet you didn’t see that on the news.

    That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don’t hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

    If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.

    But then there’s my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless…

    #9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION

    Wait, what?

    Aren’t these vaccines supposed to be what we’ve been waiting for to “go back to normal”?

    Nope.

    Why do you think we’re getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?

    The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.

    If you don’t believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.

    The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.

    Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?

    That’s it…lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we’ve been waiting for.

    Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?

    1. It can’t stop us from spreading the virus.

    2. It can’t stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.

    3. To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?

    Heck, there are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don’t involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.

    Now for the next logical question:

    If we’re worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?

    If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?

    For what it’s worth, I’ve heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching covid.

    I can’t make sense of that either.

    Take the risk.

    Get no protection.

    Suffer through the vaccine side-effects.

    Keep wearing your mask and social distancing…

    And continue to be able to spread the virus.

    What?

    It gets worse.

    #10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED

    Talk about a bummer.

    You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.

    In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.

    Given the reasons above (and what’s below), maybe this doesn’t surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.

    It’s not.

    That was never the point.

    If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine…maybe they aren’t wowed by the rushed science either.

    Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported…

    #11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID

    According to the CDC’s own numbers, covid has a 99.74% survival rate.

    Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn’t stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me–actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids), but let’s not split hairs here.

    With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year…i.e. forever.

    But wait, what about the 500,000 plus deaths, that’s alarming right?

    I’m glad you asked.

    #12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS

    Something smells really funny about this one.

    Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.

    Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with covid in their body, as having died of covid, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?

    Until covid, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.

    The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.

    To bloat the number even more, both the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of covid, are also included in the death numbers.

    Seriously?

    If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?

    According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section “Comorbidities and other conditions”) only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand.

    In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.

    Even if the former CDC director is correct and covid-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet ever year.

    Then there’s this Fauci guy.

    I’d really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn’t treated one covid patient…you should probably know…

    #13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE

    Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using tax payer funding.

    Tony Fauci owns over 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine…which he approved government funding for.

    In fact, the NIH (which NIAID is part of) claims joint ownership of Moderna’s vaccine.

    Does anyone else see this as a MAJOR conflict of interest, or criminal even?

    I say criminal because there’s also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general.

    #14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH

    What is “Gain-of-Function” research?

    It’s where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions–i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.

    Sounds at least a touch unethical, right?

    How could that possibly be helpful?

    Our government agreed, and banned the practice.

    So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do?

    They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China–to the tune of a $600K grant.

    You can see more details, including the important timeline of these events in this fantastically well-researched documentary.

    Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do…and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.

    For now, let’s turn our attention back to the virus…

    #15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE

    Not only does the virus (like all viruses) continue to mutate, but according to world-renowned vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (who you’ll meet below if you don’t know him) it’s mutating about every 10 hours.

    How in the world are we going to keep creating vaccines to keep up with that level of mutation?

    We’re not.

    Might that also explain why fully vaccinated people are continuing to catch covid?

    Why, given that natural immunity has never ultimately failed humanity, do we suddenly not trust it?

    Why, if I ask questions like the above, or post links like what you find above, will my thoughts be deleted from all major social media platforms?

    That brings me to the next troubling problem I have with these vaccines.

    #16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE

    I can’t help but get snarky here, so humor me.

    How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally-televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?

    Wasn’t it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics, and vaccinology from all over the world as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:

    • Lockdowns

    • Mask wearing

    • Social-distancing

    • Vaccine efficacy and safety trials

    • How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury

    • Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)

    Wasn’t it great seeing public health officials (who never treated anyone with covid) have their “science” questioned.

    Wasn’t it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?

    Oh, wait…you didn’t see those debates?

    No, you didn’t…because they never happened.

    What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.

    Ironically, Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can’t?

    Hypocrite?

    When did the first amendment become a suggestion?

    It’s the FIRST amendment Mark–the one our founders thought was most important.

    With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative…shouldn’t many perspectives be heard and professionally debated?

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SCIENCE?

    What has happened to the scientific method of always challenging our assumptions?

    What happened to lively debate in this country, or at least in Western society?

    Why did anyone who disagrees with the WHO, or the CDC get censored so heavily?

    Is the science of public health a religion now, or is science supposed to be about debate?

    If someone says “the science is settled” that’s how I know I’m dealing with someone who is closed minded.

    By definition science (especially biological science) is never settled.

    If it was, it would be dogma, not science.

    OK, before I get too worked up, let me say this…

    I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN

    I really do.

    If lockdowns work, I want to do my part and stay home.

    If masks work, I want to wear them.

    If social distancing is effective, I want to comply.

    But, if there is evidence they don’t (masks for example), I want to hear that evidence too.

    If highly-credentialed scientists have different opinions, I want to know what they think.

    I want a chance to hear their arguments and make up my own mind.

    I don’t think I’m the smartest person in the world, but I think I can think.

    Maybe I’m weird, but if someone is censored, then I REALLY want to hear what they think.

    Don’t you?

    To all my friends who don’t have a problem with censorship, will you have the same opinion when what you think is censored?

    Is censorship not the technique of dictators, tyrants, and greedy, power-hungry people?

    Is it not a sign that those who are doing the censoring know it’s the only way they can win?

    What if a man who spent his entire life developing vaccines was willing to put his entire reputation on the line and call on all global leaders to immediately stop the covid vaccines because of problems with the science?

    What if he pleaded for an open-scientific debate on a global stage?

    Would you want to hear what he has to say?

    Would you want to see the debate he’s asking for?

    #17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…

    Here is what may be the biggest reason this covid vaccine doesn’t make sense to me.

    When someone who is very pro-vaccine, who has spent his entire professional career overseeing the development of vaccines, is shouting from the mountaintops that we have a major problem, I think the man should be heard.

    In case you missed it, and in case you care to watch it, here is Geert Vanden Bossche, explaining:

    1. Why the covid vaccine may be putting so much pressure on the virus that we are accelerating it’s ability to mutate and become more deadly.

    2. Why the covid vaccines may be creating vaccine-resistant viruses (similar to anti-biotic resistant bacteria).

    3. Why, because of previous problems with Antibody Dependent Enhancement, we may be looking at a mass casualty event in the next few months/years.

     

    If you want to see/read about a second, and longer, interview with Vanden Bossche, where he was asked some tough questions, you can check this out.

    If half of what he says comes true, these vaccines could be the worst invention of all time.

    If you don’t like his science, take it up with him.

    I’m just the messenger.

    But I can also speak to covid personally.

    #18: I ALREADY HAD COVID

    I didn’t enjoy it.

    It was a nasty cold for two days:

    • Unrelenting butt/low-back aches

    • Very low energy.

    • Low-grade fever.

    It was weird not being able to smell anything for a couple days.

    A week later, coffee still tasted a little “off.”

    But I survived.

    Now it appears (as it always has) that I have beautiful, natural, life-long immunity

    …not something likely to wear off in a few months if I get the vaccine.

    In my body, and my household, covid is over.

    In fact, now that I’ve had it, there is evidence the covid vaccine might actually be more dangerous for me.

    That is not a risk I’m willing to take.

    IN SUMMARY

    The above are just my reasons for not wanting the vaccine.

    Maybe my reasons make sense to you, maybe they don’t.

    Whatever does makes sense to you, hopefully we can still be friends.

    I for one think there’s a lot more that we have in common than what separates us.

    • We all want to live in a world of freedom.

    • We all want to do our part to help others and to live well.

    • We all want the right to express our opinions without fearing we’ll be censored or viciously attacked.

    • We all deserve to have the access to the facts so we can make informed decisions.

    Agree or disagree with me; I’ll treat you no differently.

    You’re a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else.

    For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.

    I hope you found this helpful.

    If so, feel free to share.

    If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know what didn’t make sense to you and I’d be happy to hear your thoughts too.

    Stay curious and stay humble.

    PS. If you think I studied this topic well, think about how much thought I would put into helping you with your health. Helping people with their health is what I do all day, every day.

    PPS. Health can’t be injected, but it can be earned.

    The views and opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Citizens Journal

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    Clinton Davis
    Clinton Davis
    9 months ago

    You people sure embarrassed yourselves with this one. I have a TON of GOP friends who died from COVID but not a single person who got vaccinated. Not one.

    JF Kennedy
    JF Kennedy
    10 months ago

    It’s been a couple of years, still waiting to die from my vaccination.

    Blondhrsecrzy
    Blondhrsecrzy
    9 months ago
    Reply to  JF Kennedy

    Been a couple years & im still waiting to drop dead from covid…you know, the non lethal virus.

    If Sidney Powell says it, I believe it!
    If Sidney Powell says it, I believe it!
    9 months ago
    Reply to  Blondhrsecrzy

    Been a couple years and I’m still waiting for the Kraken to overturn Trump’s LOSS.

    Johan
    Johan
    1 year ago

    I’d love to see a follow up article as we’re almost 2 yrs past this one! Great read ty!

    Jasmine Wilson
    Jasmine Wilson
    1 year ago

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    Tyrone Munoz
    Tyrone Munoz
    1 year ago

    You’re so awesome! I don’t believe I have read a single thing like that before. So great to find someone with some original thoughts on this topic. Really.. thank you for starting this up. This website is something that is needed on the internet, someone with a little originality!

    Michael A…
    Michael A…
    1 year ago

    Even the poster-child for right wing propaganda, Newsmax, is reporting the vaccines saved 20 MILLION lives in the first year alone. Read it yourself:

    https://www.newsmax.com/amp/newsfront/covid/2022/06/23/id/1075852/

    Go ahead and downvote Newsmax. Just remember it’s YOUR propaganda machine, not mine.

    Pidge
    Pidge
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Michael A…

    Thousands of doctors who are not part of a hospital system have been successfully treating Covid patients EARLY and saving thousands upon thousands of lives using readily available drugs with proven safety profiles that have been around for decades. Doctors were blocked by hospital protocols from utilizing these drugs and pharmacies would not prescribe. Blood on the hands of authorities that instituted these policies. No question a serious crime against humanity has taken place in this regard. No, instead we had to wait for the vaccines to save humanity (fun fact: EUA for the vax would not have been legally granted if there were other proven treatments….). Wow what a colossal let down the vaccines have been. They’re unnecessary for most people without comorbidities. Especially not needed for children with 75% seroprevalence even months ago before the shot was available for 5-11 year olds. Mortality from C was always heavily skewed toward the elderly, so they have likely benefited from vaccination over all. For all others, a personal risk benefit analysis needs to be done. Since pharma is not interested in such analyses, independent researchers are doing it based on the Phase 3 trail data (forced by lawsuit to be shared with the public) from the 2 main manufacturers. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22010283?via%3Dihub

    Conclusion: We found excess risk of serious AESIs to exceed the reduction in COVID-19 hospitalizations in both Pfizer and Moderna trials.

    What ever happened to “First do no harm”?

    Ryan B.
    Ryan B.
    1 year ago

    Number of preventable deaths that could have been averted if all adults had gotten vaccinated: 318.981, with red states taking the brunt of the deaths, even though they had lower population.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta

    Pidge
    Pidge
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ryan B.

    The real story here is the off patent lifesaving drugs that were vilified and blocked from use in hospital settings that could have saved millions of lives…and did save millions in Uttar Pradesh for instance where the government handed it out as part of a Covid kit. In truth the blame for millions of deaths belongs with Big Pharmas money making agenda which strangled all use of anything but ON patent drugs in treatment protocols.

    Nicky
    Nicky
    2 years ago

    Anti vaxers really be like “You’re just gonna listen to doctors who studied medicine for 10 years? Wow enjoy being a sheep, I’m gonna listen to a stay at home moms Facebook page cause I’m an independent thinker.

    Blondhrsecrzy
    Blondhrsecrzy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Nicky

    I’m curious if you bothered to read the document dump pfizer was forced to start releasing after they tried to hide it for 55 years. The ignorance of Branch Covidian cult scares me. You don’t care about facts OR science. CNN told you it was safe so you believe those who are making billions off an experiment that couldn’t even pass the animal testing phase because of the deaths. Wokeism is destroyingsociety

    Nunzab
    Nunzab
    2 years ago

    Am I an uneducated imbecile prone to conspiracy theory?
    No. It’s the doctors who are wrong.

    Mike Smith
    Mike Smith
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Nunzab

    Says the uneducated imbecile prone to conspiracy theories.

    Blondhrsecrzy
    Blondhrsecrzy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Nunzab

    Which doctors? You mean the only doctors that have been paid to pump propaganda? I urge you to stop trying to troll…and go actually read the document dump from pfizer. You were lied to.

    Wesley S.
    Wesley S.
    2 years ago

    The human brain is incredible. It’s capable of both engineering a life saving mRNA vaccine and deciding that anti-parasitic cattle paste is a better option. Just unbelievable range.

    Blondhrsecrzy
    Blondhrsecrzy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Wesley S.

    You mean the award winning break thru human medication thats been on market since 1970s? Why all the trolls again? Your propaganda machine must hate to have independent journalists actually report the facts.

    Caitlyn
    Caitlyn
    2 years ago

    Multiple tissues of the male genital tract can be infected with SARS-CoV-2, reports a new Northwestern Medicine study in large animal models. The study, in SARS-CoV-2 infected-rhesus macaques, revealed the prostate, vasculature of testicles, penis, and testicles were all infected with the virus.

    But I’m told Nunzab had the final surgery of its sex change so doesn’t have to worry about testicle infections anymore. That’s why it doesn’t care how many times it gets COVID.

    Tom Clark
    Tom Clark
    2 years ago

    Research Germ Theory. Proven false. Vaccines are
    predicated on Germ Theory being correct, but it’s not…
    it has been scientifically proven to be false by the US
    Government on Deer Island in a two-year trial.
    R.B.Pearson 1921.

    You can’t catch a germ or virus. Contagion is a myth
    promoted by Hollywood movies and Big Pharma.
    Vaccines are responsible for creating disease,
    not preventing it.

    The entire thing is a hoax, no deadly viruses, no
    variants…just BS. Look at all they’ve achieved.
    The entire thing is a computer simulation and
    reshuffling of the deck regarding the seasonal
    flu, which is also not contagious.
    Event 201 John Hopkins

    The ‘vaccine’ wasn’t invented for ‘Covid’,
    Covid was invented for the vaccine.

    In science, correlation is not causation.
    The flu? We don’t catch the flu, we create it
    inside by what we eat, drink breath, into
    existence. When the cell can’t turn over, due
    to toxicity, the body goes into a purge.

    It’s a body detox when it becomes overloaded with toxins. It builds up every year, winter comes, and people’s vitamin D levels shrink and your body purges. You don’t catch the flu from somebody if you are healthy. Although you can catch the flu from somebody who was vaccinated with a flu shot, due to shedding. Every year, just prior to the impending “flu season,” the CDC and their acquiescent media pawns terrorize the American public with false claims regarding annual flu deaths.

    The CDC boldly asserts that 36,000 people die every year from the flu. Such scare tactics are calculated to increase flu vaccine sales. However, according to the CDC’s own official records documented in National Vital Statistics Reports, only a few hundred people die from influenza (flu) on an average year. And many of these deaths occur in people with preexisting conditions, weakened immune systems, and the elderly. 

    The entire Covid19 pandemic is a hoax…they weaponized the seasonal flu and lied about everything.

    Vaccines are bioweapons. Without them pediatricians wouldn’t have a job.
    Check where the US ranks in infant mortality…you’ll be shocked.

    Vance
    Vance
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tom Clark

    Wow, there are people out there this stupid.

    Shaye
    Shaye
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tom Clark

    Stop telling me to do my “research”. Sane people use the internet to research the best price on underpants and the top recipe for mushroom risotto. You can’t research pandemics and virology on the internet to the point where you become a credible authority.

    Robby S.
    Robby S.
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tom Clark

    Bittersweet announcement but after an amazing 2 years as an infections disease expert I am moving on. I am now an expert on no-fly zones and Eastern European affairs. Excited to make the most of this new opportunity.

    truth
    truth
    2 years ago

    .

    If you do respond, and you break any of those rules, your comments will be ignored/deleted.

    No one likes world police or the leaky weak outdated “vaccine”

    Sheryl Hamlin
    2 years ago
    Mike Smith
    Mike Smith
    2 years ago

    Sue opined, “I would love to know how many of the respondents who were against vaccination finally got the jab or got Covid”

    You know what rational, informed people would love to know?

    How many jabbed haters of the so-smeared ‘unvaxxed’, who refuse to debate what is true with anyone, now regret the decision to have an experimental/unvetted vaccine drug injected into their bodies.

    Chancy
    Chancy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mike Smith

    Clear statistics of unvaxxed to vaccinated people for Ventura County: https://www.venturacountyrecovers.org/

    Note, as of March 2, 2022: The unvaxxed are a minority (238,180), but account for 245 deaths. Whereas the vaccinated (610,450) only account for 152 deaths.

    Sue
    Sue
    2 years ago

    This article and most of the comments are 6 mis old.I would love to know how many of the respondents who were against vaccination finally got the jab or got Covid

    Tommy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    Got Covid in Jan 2020. And recovered with natural immunity. So I never bothered with ‘the jab’. A better question is, why was natural immunity never considered ?

    Cherryl
    Cherryl
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tommy

    If you live, natural immunity is great. However, close to a million people in the U.S. did not survive, so their natural immunity did not gain them much.

    Janis
    Janis
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sue

    Got the killer covid in March of 2022. Felt like a stomach virus. How many pro-jabbers would put meth, lsd, heroin, or any outlawed drug in their body? I believe that I’ll be better off with my immunity than a drug pushers. And pushing is exactly what they did.

    Carla Wales
    Carla Wales
    2 years ago

    Thank you for this very informative article. I have been feeling much of the same but did not have all the research and eloquence to speak it. One question about your last point: I have heard that we do not actually know if one becomes immune to covid19 if they have had the virus. In fact, I know of 2 people who have gotten it twice. I imagine that also with all the variants coming out that if you had one form of covid you might be able to get another variant. I feel like your last point could do disservice to some of your other very valid points. Could you comment on this?

    Pidge
    Pidge
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Carla Wales

    Down votes on this reasonable comment are…unreasonable…. since time (and Omicron) has shown Carla’s question was a good one. I also wondered about suggesting “life long immunity” since the science was far from conclusive. What now appears to be true with variants so far is that, like these substandard gene therapies, a previous infection mitigates severe disease quite well. Even the CDC has been forced to acknowledge this. Hoping that we could conquer a fast mutating virus with an always-outdated shot was always a false hope. Like the common cold, it appears this particular coronavirus will be here to stay. The good news is this is a treatable disease….as the FLCCC has been saying all along. In the meantime, lose weight, support your immune system and stop living in fear.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago

    amazing article and truly grateful you spent the time writing this. It gives me hope people are waking up to the lies, the censorship, the negative side affects of this experimental jab, let’s keep our freedoms and constitutional rights alive! Love to all.

    Tom
    Tom
    2 years ago
    Laura Vipond
    Laura Vipond
    2 years ago

    Thank You for your research, and great details. This is exactly what I have been thinking! To bad many people have lost their common sense! The only one that can stop all the Evil going on in this world is, Our Lord Jesus Christ! We all better get ready, because he is coming back soon! We all better get saved and repent to our Jesus! I just keep praying for the whole world! ✝️

    Linda Campbell
    Linda Campbell
    2 years ago

    Excellent article/commentary/facts/truth presented!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago

    I’m tired of trying to debate this issue.
    I’ll ask a simple question, will this be you ? (taken from Fox news website article):

    A Las Vegas dad dying of COVID-19 sent his fiancée the heartbreaking text, “I should have gotten the damn vaccine” just before he succumbed, according to new reports. 
    Michael Freedy, 39, had gone on vacation with fiancée Jessica du Preez and their children, ages 17, 10, 7, 6 and 17 months, in mid-July, KVVU reported.

    Well will it? As Clint Eastwood would say, do you feel lucky? Well do you punk?

    ROFL.
    You anti-vaxxers kill me … but at least covid won’t. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Ed
    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    What, no response to this?
    Hello?
    Hello?
    Calling all anti-vaxxers for a rebuttal.
    Yeah, I didn’t think so.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    ED WE ARE NO LONGER RESPONDING TO YOUR FEAR BASED TACTICS AND LIES WE WILL NO LONGER GIVE YOU OUR ENERGY AND INSTEAD SPEND IT ON KEEPING OURSELVES HEALTHY AND SPREADING TRUTH ABOUT THIS EXPERIMENTAL NON FDA APPROVED MRNA TECHNOLOGY – NOT A VACCINE

    J.A.S. Viera
    J.A.S. Viera
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed; are you willing to declare a national emergency because of a virus that so far has killed 0.18 of a one percent of the US populace?

    Sebastian
    Sebastian
    2 years ago
    Reply to  J.A.S. Viera

    Well this comment didn’t age well. As of today, 3/4/22, total covid deaths in the U.S. is 955k

    Pidge
    Pidge
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sebastian

    From the article above: “According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section “Comorbidities and other conditions”) only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand. [my addition: Aka, dying with a positive covid test.]

    In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.”

    I don’t doubt with hospital incentives in the tens of thousands of dollars for each covid death, the 6% figure may well be accurate. So 955K x 6% = 57,300. Divided by 2 years = 28,650. And that much lower number is still a shame when many many doctors have been trying to share their successful treatment protocols. Nobody had to die!! It really is a crime we have all been subjected to in so many different ways. Some died, some were fired, others were ostracized by friends and family etc etc. Divide and conquer remains a successful tool in the power playbook.

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Fear mongering for the simple minded sheep, and a sheep you are.

    Carla
    Carla
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed, always sad to hear of people passing..especially when they are regretful. I know two people who have died from covid despite having gotten two jabs of the covid vaccine (Chinese version as they are in Asia). So, I sincerely hope you do not get killed by Covid (or anything else untimely including variants of Covid and/or the vaccine). I also hope that there are no further adverse affects from the vaccine – there is no satisfaction in a situation like to this to be proven right.

    Richard Marroquin
    Richard Marroquin
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Covid may not kill you, but; the vaccine probably will. It has genetic strains of HIV and who knows what else. People vaccinated for C19 are coming down with AIDS like symptoms and perishing….I’ll take my chances vaxx-free…. Afterall, there’s Ivermectin to the rescue–yes, I’ll take horse medicine if it’s gonna save my a55. On a separate note, the vaccine is touted as mrna “gene therapy” In layman’s terms, your rna/dna will be genetically manipulated. In 2013, the SCUS (supreme court of US) granted patents for genetically modified human genome technology. If vaxxed, you are now the proud carrier of this technology and thus are no longer considered human–you are now a “TransHuman,” which by the way exempts you of having any rights granted to norman humans–look it up. Furthermore, this technology is proprietary and thus you are now property of the creator of this mrna technology–Congratulations!

    Jan Cowley
    Jan Cowley
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Would he have gotten covid even though he was vaccinated? Well, would he? Did he have any comorbidities that he may have died from? Did he? Do you believe everything journalists write and print in the news? Well, do you? How do you know this story is true? How do you know what the writer didn’t tell you? The media has made our entire country and government a reality TV show. Except there isn’t much reality in it. The author of this article gave reference to facts to support her thoughts. You didn’t. Why should I care what you think?

    Someone Somewhere
    Someone Somewhere
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ed

    I typed the guy’s name into a search engine and it turned up all these articles on him and his death in just about copy-paste word for word reporting – all by different sites – all MSM (yes, I f’ing said that, go ahead and label me, but you’d be wrong and small brained). Anyway, the guy could be classed as obese or near obese. Was always at risk. Maybe he should have got the shot *shrug* but since it was probably the intubation that actually killed him, together with remdesivir and the drug cocktails they’re pumping into these people, his deathbed musings – if they really occurred (no trust, anymore) – are all too convenient to get the fear into people like you to rush off and expose yourself to something worse than the virus. I’m just glad the vax is killing off the people dumb enough to take it (and it factually is;) Are you still alive “ROFL”.
    Sympathies with those forced into it and children.

    Rick Misitano
    Rick Misitano
    2 years ago

    I’m curious to see how many people who received these vaccinations took the time to read the waiver they signed before getting the shot and took it anyway?? Which is fine, it’s your voluntary consent and your right to do so. Just as long as people realized that the drug manufacturers have been given blanket immunity. This means people have waived all legal rights to
    pursue damages if someone becomes severely ill or develops serious adverse side effects that are determined to be in direct correlation to the vaccine itself. Even if you die as a direct result. Yes, your life insurance company will be required to pay the death benefit, but that’s an ultimate price to have to pay for taking a drug that we were assured was going to be safe. You have no legal recourse against them or the federal government. Meanwhile, the pharmaceutical companies are free to continue to make billions upon billions of dollars in profits while having no culpability whatsoever. Below in-part is a copy of what’s contained in the Inova Health System consent form:

    “By signing this consent, I am agreeing that I understand that the vaccine may cause a severe allergic reaction which can include anaphylaxis (difficulty breathing, swelling of the face and throat, a fast heartbeat, a rash all over the body, dizziness and/or weakness). I understand that these may not be all the side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine as the vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials. I also understand that it is not possible to predict all possible side effects or complications which could be associated with the vaccine. I understand that the long-term side effects or complications of this vaccine are not known at this time.

    I understand that the vaccination is being given by Inova Health System Foundation and its affiliates (collectively Inova). The owner and/or operator of this site, their affiliates, officers, directors, employees and agents expressly disclaim any responsibility for the vaccination. My consent is given in light of this knowledge, and in consideration of Inova giving the COVID-19 vaccine. I, for myself and my heirs, administrators, trustees, executors, assigns and successors in interest do hereby agree to release and hold harmless Inova, its subsidiaries, divisions, affiliates, successors, assigns, officers, trustees, employees, volunteers and agents from and against any and all demands, damages, losses, costs, expenses, obligations, liabilities, claims, actions and cause of action (whether any of which is groundless or otherwise) of any nature whatsoever (including, without limitation, reasonable attorney’s fees and court costs) by reason of or resulting, in any way, from any and all acts, accidents, events, occurrences, omissions and the like related to, or arising out of, directly or indirectly, my receipt of this COVID-19 vaccine.

    Inova makes no warranties, express or implied, including but not limited to, implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose regarding the vaccine or its effectiveness.”

    Folks, I am a COVID survivor. I was in the hospital for over two months having a multitude of medical issues as a result. It was not a pleasant experience to say the least and it is something that I hope people will never have to experience if they have been fortunate enough thus far. One of the issues I’ve developed when I was hospitalized was cardiomyopathy. Whether or not the vaccine will exacerbate my condition is unknown by the medical professionals. Simply put, medical experts have no clue as to the long term effects the vaccines will have on people with various pre-existing conditions. This is not to say that people shouldn’t be taking the regular precautionary measures that we have all been used to for the past 18 months (like wearing masks, washing your hands, social distancing, etc.) until the vaccines are officially approved by the FDA. It also doesn’t mean people should be forced to take any type of vaccinations or medications that have not been fully vetted and approved, especially if there are underling conditions that could be worsened as a result.         

    KKRayne
    KKRayne
    2 years ago

    Excellent article! Thank You for your courage. Everything you shared is in total alignment with how I feel. Keep up the great work. The truth will be revealed, sooner or later.

    Jeff’s wife
    Jeff’s wife
    2 years ago

    Outstanding article! Well researched. I actually had Covid at the end of 2019 when nobody realized it was in the country. I was very sick and was at the doctor 5 times in one month because of my cough. He said my lungs were horrible but I just had a nasty virus. I had every single symptom of covid and suffered for months afterwards with heart issues, hearing issues, and fatigue. Now we know it has been out since Sept 2019! I will not get a vaccine, because I, like you, have lifelong immunity. That does not stop people from treating me like a second class citizen because I will not take this dangerous injection. They are sheep led to the slaughter, in my opinion.

    MossyRockRanch
    MossyRockRanch
    2 years ago

    Considering almost 100% of what comes out from government and maybe a half a percent more from MSM I trust almost no sources about much of anything anymore except what God has given us in Scripture.
    I sift and surf myriads of international data and “Experts” to glean any logical and factual data I can discern and even at that you are left with; is this true or what other aspect or faction of society or oligarchy wants us to hear.
    However when the creators of this type of tech come out on record and warn it should be stopped and there are ramifications about shedding I have to say up front that regardless if you have a brain you will be asking yourself the question of whether you would buy even a Volkswagen or a Ford Escort that the manufacturer gives absolutely NO warranty for and you knew had a sweetheart deal that in the event of a defect or safety concern for life and/or limb, would you buy it?? Even if new it was only 20k.
    Now you blindly accept an unknown, untested and suspect concoction made by the universally agreed upon greedy pharmaceutical industry whose motives are solely monetary WITH IMMUNITY from liability to inject a series of innoculations for something they don’t even have a picture of into your body and risking your life while leaving your family absolutely no recourse in the event of your death.
    Now that makes perfect sense in today’s world of zombie brain dead morons that walk the planet….
    Nuff said.

    Bob
    Bob
    2 years ago

    So, you are basically trying to Darwin yourself to death. Sorry to see you go. Your misinformation in this article is astounding, but it’s to your detriment, not mine. Wish you would have some common sense. It’s a waste of skin for you to go, but alas farewll.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Bob

    I pray for you “bob”

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    You should pray for yourself. Bob is a lot smarter than you anti-vaxxers.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Not an anti-vaxxer. Have received vaccines for other things in past. Sorry this isn’t black and white and you can’t put people in boxes, sorry it isn’t that easy and there are many layers and shades of gray. This ISN’T a vaccine. it is MRNA technology that ISN’T Even approved. Do you do any research?

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    He’s of the opinion only his opinion matters and any opinion differing from what he believes deserves to be ridiculed and berated. This is the mindset of the open minded liberal…funny isn’t it?

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Bob

    Sir, I would love to hear your counterpoint to this article. This way we would have a true debate on what you see as misinformation. Otherwise you made a statement without factual evidence to dispute his assertions. As a reader I would love to have the discussion. No more name calling but an adult discussion.

    J.A.S. Viera
    J.A.S. Viera
    2 years ago

    I have been trying to publish articles contrary to “experts” ideologies, but papers and journals just say: No! Here is a shot one that you may like.

    COVID 19: THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION                                                                                                                                                  J. A. S. Viera; Ph. D.*

    Throughout these past eighteen months having Covid for breakfast, lunch and supper, I can’t but ask if we are in the right track?
    The answer depends if you are in Group A (an “expert”, part of main stream media, a big pharma executive), or in group B (a damn illiterate anti-vaccination rebel).
    Group A believe that there is a calamity out there; the worse human kind have ever confronted, direr than the bubonic plague. They are convinced that humanity will be decimated, unless every single soul is vaccinated.
     Is that really the case?
    By July 2021, the Percent of Covid Deaths to Total World Population was .05 and for the USA 0.18.
    Well, if 0.5 of one percent of the word populace and 0.18 of one percent of the USA population have die “because” of the virus, it does not look like Armageddon! 
    Nonetheless, officials started confining people in cages; then came face masking, “social distance”, and finally vaccination. 
    Deliverance 1, 2 and 3, regardless of what experts are stressing, failed miserably. First, humans can’t be wearing mask 24/7 or pushed into cages forever. Besides, shielding nose and mouth is not enough. What about your eyes, hands, hair, ears and clothes? Social distance? If scientists are expecting people rambling with a device calculating distance from each other, they are hallucinating. 
    Of course, supporters of 1, 2 and 3 solutions will emphasize these measures have saved millions. How many millions are they talking about? How do they know? Your guess is as good as mine.
    Inoculation to save us from those damn bloodthirsty microscopic vampires flying around our heads, is neither working as expected. We are seeing reports of people already vaccinated getting sick again; the so call multiple breakthrough cases.
     “Experts” are saying that the quantity is not significant and that the majority shows minor or no symptoms at all. 
    That those re-infected shows minor or no symptoms, is not a valid argument in favor of vaccination. That is the actual experience of most people getting the virus; inoculated or not.
    Second, how do they know that the quantity is not significant? Are they counting those who are breakthrough cases, but had decided to remain at home without reporting their conditions? 
    Even the CDC is now acknowledging that millions of vaccinated people will likely have a breakthrough infection. Just few days ago the head of the CDC stated that the coronavirus could be just a few mutations away from evading existing COVID-19 vaccines, and that fully vaccinated people may be spreading the Delta variant.
    It seems that “experts” are somewhat alarmed that their vaccination approach is not working as swiftly as publicized. If breakthrough cases become widespread, they are going to be extremely embarrassed. 
    No wonder millions relying on logical deductions or speculative fears about a vaccine advanced in record time, suspicious it might alter their DNA (despite scientists’ assertions on the contrary), are rejecting inoculation.
    Appears that people are not trusting scientists anymore. Maybe unknowingly following Aldous Huxley assertion that: “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left”. Certainly, if people realized how little doctors know, they’d be very scared.
    Now we are under pressure to get inoculated. And there is an idiotic controversy out there. Idiotic because if only 0.18 percent of our population have die from Covid19, there is no need for a second civil war.
    That decimal point speaks more than a thousand words!  
    Still another question that need answer. Why the endless and ferocious propaganda to vaccinate everyone? Is it because officials really want to save us, or because Big Pharma? 
    Billions of vaccines have been manufactured. To sell those samples, the public must be vaccinated no matter what. Looks like everything boils down to who gets more of the pie $$$. 
    From my point of view, there is only one ultimate solution: Let Covid19 run its ordinary evolution. People would be infected; most with minor or not symptoms. A minority would require special attention. The vast majority would stay at home 2 or 3 weeks; then back to normal life with natural inbuilt herd immunity.
    Just proposing a different approach that, as crazy as it may sound, could be the best enduring solution after all. By allowing the virus kill itself through its natural life circle, rather than shooting people with vaccines every six months, seems a more logical solution.
    Many probably will call my proposal insane; and myself, an idiot. I suppose they have been programed by the system not to listen anything but orthodoxy.
    * The author is a retired professor of statistics and sociology. E-mail: [email protected]

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  J.A.S. Viera

    Check my post above, Einstein.

    Sandy
    Sandy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  J.A.S. Viera

    I agree. For as long as this has been going on, it makes much more sense for everyone to stay home for a month and I mean everyone and then it is done. Regardless if that would work or not these stupid vaccines are actually dangerous if you read the science behind them. It amazes me that people will allow something like this into their bodies without even researching it. And they are the ones who think we are stupid. It is actually pretty funny.

    Shawn
    Shawn
    2 years ago

    This article is GREAT & very informative. To the author, THANK YOU! The author provided so many links that tells us of a horrifying story that is currently unfolding that these injections are more dangerous than what we have been told by our socialist mainstream media. We the people no longer trust the system.

    David Howell
    David Howell
    2 years ago

    ever notice how liberal idiots always have a label handy to put on you if you disagree with them? ANTI-VAXXER….VACCINE DENIER…..etc
    Its MY choice, MY body, MY health…..and its none of YOUR business! That’s another problem with liberals….they cant mind their own business.
    …and don’t give me that crap about “herd immunity”…if people that had the vaccine are still getting covid, there can be no “herd immunity”.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  David Howell

    I’m a conservative Republican.
    Care to try again?

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Normally with conservatives if they don’t like guns, they don’t buy one however they never want laws passed to prevent others from buying guns. Normally it is liberals that try and force their beliefs onto others. So as a conservative, you believe in individual freedoms right?

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    You are free to remain unvaccinated. I freely chose to get vaccinated. Individual freedoms yes. Responsible, prudent choices even more so.

    Pidge
    Pidge
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed, are you still with us?

    Carla Wales
    Carla Wales
    2 years ago
    Reply to  David Howell

    I agree with this article… and I am very much pro choice for what people wants to do with their bodies. That said…. I am wondering if you are doing the same kind of labeling when you call those that do not agree (or are even forceful about their beliefs), “liberal idiots”? Something to consider…..

    fla
    fla
    2 years ago

    One or more class actions are coming. In Europe, one of them will be organised by https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/

    fla
    fla
    2 years ago

    Nice and useful reading. I will use its translated and adapted version to be sent to a few friends. Do you mind?
    I would add a few words about PCR testing, which is the first fake pillar to be demolished since all “cases” and sars-cov-2 “variants” are constructed consequences of that TEST. Do the readers know that CDC has alerted about the expiry date of PCR testing. It will not be used (why…? Hmm…) after Dec.31st, 2021.
    07/21/2021: Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 TestingLink to CDC:https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

    Diane
    Diane
    2 years ago

    Well-written, researched, and very informative!! Everything about covid and vaccines has been questionable and not trust-worthy from the start. Everyone should have the right to make a decision whether to vaccinate or not. It is a personal choice and not one that vaccinated should blame unvaccinated for the continuation of the virus, other variants, and their fear of catching it. What was the purpose of the vaccine to continue to be worried and told later on they need yet another vaccine? It is the government and the media that lie and give out misinformation for control of the people.

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Diane

    My body my choice.

    Diane
    Diane
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    Absolutely. People need to wake up to what is really going on in this country. Our leaders, CDC, WHO, and the media are so untrustworthy that how can anyone put their faith in them for what’s best for their body. Covid, vaccines, and variants are here for mass-control of the people. How else are they going to control over 300 million Americans and the people in all the other countries. I don’t care who disagrees with me I’m not going to argue, but I will never believe that this just happened upon us. We are much too advanced for something this major to be anything other than a plan being carried out in steps. Power, Greed, and Control. If you don’t obey, they can’t control!!

    Jesse
    Jesse
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Diane

    You know wh0’s even more untrustworthy? The CCP that unleashed the bio-weapon in the first place. You gonna trust your body to be infected by the Chinese weapon?

    Diane
    Diane
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jesse

    Most definitely, China is the leader of this covid and vaccine plan. I believe, they have been planning for years with other people, like Fauci and Bill Gates, etc on how they could become global leader and takeover America. China’s plan will continue to depopulate as many Americans and people in other countries as possible. Our leaders have allowed China to gain too much power and it has and will continue to lead America to yet more danger. At this point, it will take China to lose some power for any change.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago

    You are wrong on so many of your reasons, or you didn’t finish your research. If as you have it no meds ever for any one. If you think the vaccine keeps you from getting civic your are so wrong, but your chances of surviving is so much greater. I’m so sick of the U.S. People all over the world do not have the supply of vaccine we do. We are so stupid we will have mutated strains that we can’t fight because of people like you selfish, bad info and again selfish what we could control and live you prolong and make worse may the young people forgive you.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    MARY,YOU ARE FOR SAYING THIS !! IT IS NOT A VAX IT IS A SHOT THAT YOU CAN GET IT ANYWAY ..MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING IT THAT HAD THE VAX ..SO READ AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ !!

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    No, you reread, nothing has ever stated you won’t get corona virus vaccination keeps you chances of being hospitalized put on oxygen and ending in death so low, never has it been said you will be immune.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    all for a “pandemic” where 99.9% is survival rate……… rate of adverse reaction from vax is MUCH higher

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    Not even true

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    oh but it is. Mary, I say this with love but can you open your mind a tiny bit…. do you really think a government that has been slowly poisoning us with gmo food, pesticides, fluoride in our water supply, addictive and toxic pharmaceuticals and censoring info truly wants this cured. This will NOT END until we all stand up and say enough is enough. They want us to fight. They want us to divide. We need to come TOGETHER I respect your passion but let’s come together on this, we all want health and the best for all, let’s take a step back and breathe and use some common sense and intuition — the TV is a brainwashing device. The News is all lies, this is old news now. Censorship is ridiculous. If you believe the mass media you are falling for it…… but it is not too late.

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    Yes, very true.

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    Based simply on the normal definition of a vaccine, this shot is not that.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    this shot will forever change your DNA, and not for the better…… why risk that?

    Jesse
    Jesse
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    That’s great news!

    I admit I made the enormous mistake of getting fully vaccinated before I read this fine article.

    But I’m really glad to know the shot forever changed my DNA, because I now have a get out of jail free card for any alleged crimes where my DNA may have been left behind. Different DNA, right? Can’t be me. Proof positive.

    The metal spoons that stick to me are a small price to pay. Anyone else who may have left DNA behind should get the shot ASAP so you can change your DNA into someone else’s too.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    Again ridiculous, so not true. Where do you get this ridiculous info?

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    Enlighten us. What is this definition of a vaccine, that this vaccine violates? Explain it to us.

    maintainer747
    maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed
    • A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.
    • n. A preparation from the cowpox virus that protects against smallpox when administered to an individual.

    This shot is not that, it is an MRNA system that is designed to make your DNA have a certain response. It technically by the medical definition is not a vaccine like the flu vaccine or small pox. This is an engineered shot not a weakened or dead portion of the virus as all true vaccines are. I hope that answers your question.

    Joseph Mangan
    Joseph Mangan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    here you go Ed…from the CDC’s web site. This “gene therapy does NOT provide immunity.

    Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
    Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
    Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
    Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    Other than hpv vaccine there is no 100 percent vaccine

    maintainer747
    maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    True but I have taken many vaccines in my lifetime as I travelled extensively around the world. I am definitely not against vaccines especially those that have been through extensive trials with proven data…..this shot is neither and everyone who is taking this shot is a part of the human trial experiment. That is why it was only approved for emergency use but has not been approved for normal usage as of yet.

    Nina
    Nina
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    Mary the point is. Why take the vaccine if you can get the virus in anyway. It seems impulsive to stand first in line for an experimental vaccine on your body, and it may have side effects.

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    Well then Mary, kindly point out where you think he’s wrong, and please back up with corresponding data. We’d love to see your research.

    Jay
    Jay
    2 years ago

    I too worry we are creating a real super-virus as Vanden Bossche believes. When you think of virology and immunity theory as a war between our immune system and an attacker, both must evolve to survive. If we go to battle with poorly assembled armor, the attacker has advantage to defeat as well as more quickly learn and adapt. The vaccines were rushed and in my opinion unsafe. We may very well be lowering the survivability rate of C-19 variants.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jay

    You anti-vaxxers keep saying that it was rushed. They didn’t start from ground zero. Relevant work was done in developing an Ebola vaccine.You’d all be complaining they were taking too long if these covid vaccines took the typical five years to be developed and approved. You should be extremely grateful. Instead you act like frightened children. Grow up.

    Jay
    Jay
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Lol. I am not an anti-vaxxer. In my past military career, I have had more vaccines and other crap pumped into me, if I didn’t have a two page vaccination record, I would have lost track. But Covid-19 Vaccine is all about money, not making a viable vaccine. I would be happy if everyone would stop being media fodder, develop their own opinions based on facts and just move on with their lives. I’ve already had covid-19…it was a crappy Flu.

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jay

    I served as well an I have never been anti-vaccine, however the data shows that this is not a vaccine based on the medically accepted definition of what a vaccine is.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    That’s a twisted way of claiming you aren’t anti-vaccine — by claiming it isn’t a vaccine. Well done there Skippy.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Please do more research Ed. For yourself and your family.

    maintainer747
    maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Sir, once again please understand, this is not my stance on true vaccines, however multiple doctors and scientist have stated that this MRNA product does not fit the narrative of being classified medically as a vaccine. That is my only point and if you do the research instead of simply just disagreeing, you will find the data supports what I am saying about this shot.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    This is not a vax, but a technology to change your DNA

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    Lie. Explain how it changes your DNA. I’ll wait.Explain how anything other than radiation changes your DNA.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Ed
    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    many many doctors have warned of this but have been censored. Ed do you also no believe in censorship? Do you trust your government like a big mommy or daddy who loves you and wants to take care of you?

    It’s not too late to wake up. with love. truly. We should unite not fight.
    https://greganthonysjournal.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/covid-vax-not-a-vaccine-but-genetically-engineered-drug-to-change-your-dna-according-to-educated-medical-doctor/

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jay

     “At least 183,237,046 people or 56% of the population have received at least one dose.” That’s in the US alone. So 183 million people are clueless idiots and you and all the weird vaccine refusers are the enlightened ones? How can you say that you aren’t an anti-vaxxer? C’mon man!

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    There are always more sheep than lions…… sad truth….. wake up! that is why this is called the great awakening….. people will see the truth, and most too late.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    Well you got that right. Only the people who finally realize the truth, and most too late are you anti-vaxxers.

    A Las Vegas dad dying of COVID-19 sent his fiancée the heartbreaking text, “I should have gotten the damn vaccine” just before he succumbed, according to new reports. 
    Michael Freedy, 39, had gone on vacation with fiancée Jessica du Preez and their children, ages 17, 10, 7, 6 and 17 months, in mid-July, KVVU reported.

    Put that in your anti-vaxxer pipe and smoke it, dear.
    Looking forward to your response on this situation. Go for it.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Ed
    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    I could send you 100000 more people saying ” I wish i didn’t get the dam vaccine” with loved ones dying from that, still getting covid and worse yet, having permanent memory loss and tremors no longer being able to walk. I can share those stories with you if you are open. On instagram. And you cannot deny the real suffering of these poor people and their families who now need to take care of them, because they got the vax. Oh and with the companies having NO liability, they get no help from the lovely government or medical establishment.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    anti-vaxxers don’t exist because it is not a vaccine …you get it anyway even with the shot that is not a vax!!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    You are all crazy. I give up trying to have you all see the light. I hope you don’t suffer too bad when you do get the disease and believe me you will. It’s only a matter of time. You’ll change your tune when you are lying in a hospital bed. It will be too late then. Have a nice day.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    All the “unvaxxed” are the healthiest in the population. The ones who take health into their own hands. How can you demean that?You can also still GET and SPREAD covid w the vax, so if “well it won’t be AS bad” is your only reason, you need a bette reason..

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    This is STILL EUA! public info anyone can see this. Go to the FDA site and CDC site, and click on the pdfs per vaccine company, they all explain how it is still EUA (emergency use authorization) meaning- no real long term studies, animal studies SKIPPED. The few animal studies ever done on this.. the animals all DIED! FACT. Look it up for yourself, please

    Renee
    Renee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Troll

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Renee

    Conspiracy nut.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    aka truth seeker. I will take that as a compliment Ed. Thank you! I really am not against you and only here to help awaken to the truth maybe save some lives

    Renee
    Renee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    You know, I’ve seen this way too many times. I bet you are hired by big pharma, and the greed mongers. You just pop your head in here with absolutely no proof your stance is better. If you want a vaccine, you should get one. You are acting like a bully and there are numerous people in here like me, who can’t vaccinate and are being bullied and harassed for not. Kindly go somewhere else if you can’t be kind, or adult. What is the world coming to, that ego comes before being a decent kind human being. Set your facts for all to see or be quiet. You are like a little child having a tantrum because people are saying and doing things contrary to what you say and do. We are not you. Build a bridge and get over it and get out. We are in here trying to figure things out….not to service one man’s selfish pride.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Renee

    Poor baby. So many mean people pleading with you anti-vaxxers to get with the program and get vaccinated. Oh the humanity.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed you have said nothing of substance beside bully I agree… If you can come with substance, respectfully, we will all gladly listen. and if you believe in the VAX SOOO much, you are good. right? why care if anyone else gets it?? IF it works and all? right? If it didn’t work then why get it? If if does work, yay good for you! Nothing to worry about. Right?

    Mitch
    Mitch
    2 years ago

    The vaccine trial results are published on CDC website and if you’re curious on how the Pfizer “95% effective” is calculated I will break it down for you.

    First let’s understand what “95% effective” means with respect to trial results. 95% is the relative risk reduction, which is not to be confused with the absolute risk reduction. To illustrate the difference, let’s say we give a group of 100 people the jab, and a group of 100 placebo. In the jab group 2/100 people test positive (2%) while in the placebo group 4/100 (4%) test positive. In this scenario the relative risk reduction is 50% (50% reduction in your risk of catching covid!) while the absolute risk reduction is 2%.

    Now for the actual numbers in the pzifer trial. The jab group consisted of 17411, people while the placebo group consisted of 17,511 people. In the trial period 8/17411 (.05%) people in the jab group tested positive for symptomatic covid, while 162/17511 (.93%) people tested positive in the placebo group. Therefore we have .93% minus .05% = a .88% Absolute risk reduction. .88%/.93% = 95% relative risk reduction.

    Source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/recs/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vaccine.html

    Bill
    Bill
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mitch

    So your saying we have 95% less chance of catching a virus that has a 99.7% chance of survival. Interesting….., sounds like a bunch of pharmaceutical company’s are getting rich producing a “vaccine” for a virus that already had a 99.7% chance of survival.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Bill

    Thank you Bill. Some common sense is nice.

    jeremiah
    jeremiah
    2 years ago

    i refuse to take anything from these pharmacutical companies… how many people will destroy their hearts… or get gynoclamastia… or breast cancer…. from some of the items…. i dont trust any of these stupid vaccines… and why get it now wait for it to be perfected… clearly its not
    i mean three fucken shots? I didnt even have three for my polio shot
    its your choice to be a test dummy or not. ide rather wait till a new company produces a vaccine and i only need one shot thanks

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  jeremiah

    It is spelled gynecomastia and no you won’t get that with any of these vaccine choices. They don’t affect hormone levels so no gynecomastia for you. That is unless you are a chronic marijuana user.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    How about NO liability… trust anyone who is selling anything with ZERO liability? With history of corruption…….. blind blind faith in what? Trust yourself. Listen to your intuition on this one Ed.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    No, I’d rather learn about the science and take prudent action and not listen to a bunch of mentally ill conspiracy nuts.The only reason they had to provide the liability shield is that we have tens of thousands of greedy lawyers ready to pounce on any opportunity to extort money from companies.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Ed
    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Or that their product causes so many adverse reactions if they had liability, they would be out of business. BUSINESS being the key word. They are not in it to truly help people

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    If they truly cared about our health, we would be taught to get hours of sunlight (without cancer causing sunscreen but I bet you wear that too) not to drink soda, eat shitty packaged gmo food, get exercise, destress etc etc etc…. but no a shot/pill is the answer. Ed. Come on! I know you have SOME heart in there…?

    Sandy
    Sandy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    How about it has already been established that they affect female ovaries which directly affects female hormones? I mean have you done any research at all. SMDH.

    Jesse
    Jesse
    2 years ago
    Reply to  jeremiah

    Are you aware the J&J vaccine is only one shot, just as you desire? You should check it out.

    MrsGilmore
    MrsGilmore
    2 years ago

    I really appreciate this post and how well written it was. I appreciate your honesty and your bravery. You spoke for so many of us who choose against it. Thank You!!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago

    Vaccine refusers are idiots.
    You people are so eff’ing clueless.
    How many people have to die before you realize the seriousness of this plague?
    Millions have been vaccinated with vanishingly small ill effects, yet you persist in your willful ignorance. Millions in third world countries are desperate to get vaccinated and here you are. Pampered and clueless.

    Dennis the Menance
    Dennis the Menance
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    And 99.67% will live after getting the China Virus!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago

    And those who survive after hospital stays that could see medical bills exceed $250,000? How’s your insurance? How about those who are ‘long-haulers’ with persistent adverse effects of this disease? Death isn’t the only risk with covid.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    CLUELESS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT WITH THE VAX…

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    I got my 2nd Moderna shot April 15th. Hey, no covid! Hey, I’m still alive! You go on believing your nonsense. I hope you’ve made out your last will and testament.

    Jan Lee
    Jan Lee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    How do you know you didnt get the placebo!! That might be the reason your still alive!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jan Lee

    I wasn’t in a trial. I got the vaccine — two shots. Are you that weird to believe that they would jab people with something that isn’t the vaccine? The insanity I see on this site is incredible.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed again, I pray for you. You are such a lost soul.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    Pray for your own misguided soul. Leave me out of your prayers. I don’t want or need them.I won’t pray for you but I’ll pray that you don’t infect too many innocent people.

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed you seem to be more knowledgeable than the CDC / pharmas on the unknown affects of the jab? I’ve read over your post and found zero credible info. Here,s one for you:
    In short, like bacteria mutate and get stronger to survive the assault of antibacterial agents, viruses can mutate in vaccinated individuals who contract the virus, and in those, it will mutate to evade the immune system. In an unvaccinated person, on the other hand, the virus does not encounter the same evolutionary pressure to mutate into something stronger. So, if SARS-CoV-2 does end up mutating into more lethal strains, then mass vaccination is the most likely driver.

    Thanks for doing your DD before obediently obeying your masters, you have just contributed to the death of countless others if this occurs. The good news is it most likely won’t, don’t let the fear mongering msm control your decisions, they are nothing more than propaganda for the left. Wise Up!

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed you ARE the trial. again since EUA everyone is in the trial. It’s in the fine print. Try reading it.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Jan Lee

    My coworker legit got a letter from doctor saying in so many words “opps you got placebo. please come back in for another shot” because this is STILL IN TESTING…. whoever gets the shot IS THE TEST SUBJECT (hence EUA) please google EUA “ed” —- ED is the new Karen lol

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Same. with no shot. my immune system, healthy food, sunlight, good quality water, non GMO food, healthy relationships, does WONDERS FOR MY HEALTH. How about you?

    Paul Martin
    Paul Martin
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Why because they have true and honest concerns about vaccines that are created by habitual criminal corporations without regard for the people they harm?

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Paul Martin

    And yet here you are, walking around because your mommy made sure you received the polio and smallpox vaccines. Did you forget about those? Your life, your choice on the covid vaccine and you even get to pick which one. I went with Moderna and I’m doing fine, living large.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    COVID IS NOT A VACCINE UNLIKE THE OTHERS THAT WERE AND STOPPED THE POLIO AND SMALLPOX !!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    I guess I can’t argue with stupid.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Also ….. this took hours and hour of research hence why most people are too lazy to figure it out.. but polio…. spread… because of the vaccine… just like covid is not spreading again. due to the vaccine………. blew my mind too.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    How many have to die because of the shot ? it is not a vax ,ask the FDA ..IT DOES NOT PREVENT COVID IN FACT MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE COVID WITH THE SHOT YOU NEED TO RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF INSTEAD OF RELYING ON THE MEDIA LIES

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    Media lies? You are doing an excellent job spreading lies. Everyone I know here has been vaccinated. None of us have developed covid or experienced any other problem. I am talking 20 people.The FDA has approved this vaccine; they sure as hell haven’t said that it isn’t a vaccine. That’s another lie. WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? DOES THAT MAKE YOUR LIES MORE BELIEVABLE?

    Jan Lee
    Jan Lee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Humm guess they forgot to list them on their official web site!! .. Vaccines Licensed for Use in the United States | FDA

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Really Ed? Calm down. Can’t you behave rationally? The vaccines are not FDA approved. You and your 20 people are not a proper study. Have you seen the news on breakthrough rates? Vaccinated people are getting sick and transmitting Ed. It’s funny to watch you get hyped up and call people names. That leads me to believe you didn’t even bother to read the article Ed, and if you did, you didn’t understand any of it, but I’ll go with you didn’t even read it. You just want to vent your rage at people who think for themselves or you’re a paid government harasser. So tell me this Ed, if you’re vaccinated and have such faith and trust that you’re immune, why get so worked up? I mean, you’re vaccinated, so you’re safe, right? That’s what you’re saying, but you’re attacking everyone like they are out to murder you bud. I know Biden stood right there on camera and said you won’t get sick and you won’t transmit if you’re vaccinated, but that was some pretty damaging misinformation. All your responses have false information, and your hostility leads me to believe you are experiencing the backfire effect. Since you’re so confident you are right you should be happy and confident.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    Why do I get worked up? Because I want life to get back to normal. I don’t want to see the World Series of Poker cancelled again like it was last year. I might even be motivated to save the lives of stubborn anti-vaxxers like you. I might want to see this virus stopped in its tracks so it can’t mutate into more dangerous forms. I might like to see my grandson, who isns’t old enough to get vaccinated, survive this plague. Does that answer your question?

    Last edited 2 years ago by Ed
    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Soon enough they will be endorsing the jab for infants. I pity the kids who have parents foolish enough to do this.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    I’m just realizing how comical it is to have an anti-vaxxer plead with me to “behave rationally”.
    That’s what I am trying to get you anti-vaxxers to do !!!!

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    bitchute.com/video/6LYagqLH5SGa

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    EUA it is NOT FDA approved..yet……. That is a fact that cannot be debated.

    Sandy
    Sandy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    The FDA has not approved this “vaccine” wow you are maybe the dumbest troll I have ever seen. You have literally offered not one actual fact in all your ramblings. And the total ignorance about the situation you have shown is beyond appalling. I hope whoever is paying you isn’t paying you too much because you suck at this job guy.

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Sir, all anyone is asking for is a civilized discussion on why previous medical knowledge would say that the shot is actually not a vaccine but a therapeutic treatment that we have no understanding of the long term affects. Is that allowed today? No one is denying your right to receive the shot. So since we all agree on individual freedoms, what happened to: my body my choice?

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    It’s not just your body. That’s why the call it a PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. This isn’t a disease like an STD where you have to engage in dangerous behavior to become infected. Your refusal to be civilized and get vaccinated like the rest of us means that you are inviting an infection and become the means for OTHER PEOPLE to become infected. This is now a plague of the un-vaccinated so enjoy being stupid and risking your life. I object to the fact that you are risking other lives with your decision.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    The people dying are the vaccinated… sorry Ed.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  susan

    That’s a lie.
    99% of those dying of covid are the unvaccinated.
    You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren’t entitled to your own facts.
    Stop making up shjt to buttress your crazy position.

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    No Ed it’s the truth, come out from your hole.

    Researchers found nearly three-quarters of the infections occurred in people who were fully vaccinated against COVID-19 with either of three shots approved in the U.S. for emergency use. 

    Nothing about this virus makes sense — except that the authoritarians in the Democratic Party are using it to amass and consolidate their own power.

    Susan
    Susan
    2 years ago

    I am terrified. 64 years old, COPD, Diabetes… Have been in and out of Hospital 2 to 3 times per year with Exaserbations ( Couldnt breathe). I did NOT take the vccine. My doctor has practically dis own me….because of my questions. Is there anyone out there that believes there are better medicines etc we could do. Like, Ivermectin ? and the others…that other doctors say work. No doctor around me believes in that…and wont treat. Ive hidden on the farm for two years…My husband is sick of all of it…he’s healthy, and took the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. He rarely washes his hands, etc etc etc..What can I do ???? Anyone have any ideas????

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Susan

    Umm, you could get vaccinated!
    Moderna working fine for me, no side effects other than injection site soreness for 2 days.

    Wallendar
    Wallendar
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    God Ed, shut up. You don’t know anything and it’s becoming increasingly obvious with each mind numbing sheeple post that you’re either a paid government shill or a card carrying pharmaceutical Rep. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Wallendar

    Go ahead and die, fool.

    Renee
    Renee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Wallendar

    Exactly!

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Renee

    Ed! Dear Ed. I am sorry you don’t trust your own immunity over an experimental injection. EXPERIMENTAL. Our bodies are designed to heal and prosper give the right environment. If a fish is sick, change the dam water. Don’t keep the dirty water and give the fish injections… ya get me? If not,,,,, which I am sure you will battle this…. then godspeed…just wear a mask because you are now a superspreader… FACT

    Renee
    Renee
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Susan

    Hang in there Susan. I have autoimmune and other health things that, keep me from being able to be vaccinated. (By a real vetted vaccine that is) My Doctor had me take regular large doses of Vitamin C, NAC and zinc. It only works if its in there before, rather than after. I have had Covid 2 times now. I almost died after having the regular flu vaccine in 2013. Covid was a cake walk because I don’t take my health for granted. I eat organic, I don’t consume processed foods, sugar meat or dairy. Even someone with autoimmune can make their bodies covid resistant. 10 days of headache and fatigue, joint pain etc. Nothing compared to the trip to the ER , pleurisy,pneumonia etc. I get fresh air, plenty of rest and clean fresh water. I have been news media free for over a year now, because what the CDC and corona task force broadcasted was not the story they told. They could have created a climate of peace instead of panic and alarm. My lifestyle likewise helped me with my own COPD, and ALS wildcard. I went from 17 meds to supplements only. Nourish yourself, honey. Find out what your body needs and nourish yourself with the best physically, mentally, spiritually. There is a great docu coming out soon about alternatives that are actually working. that are not vaccine based. (covid) I can’t risk my life on the whim that something totally unvetted will not further harm me. You got this girl!

    Sandy
    Sandy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Susan

    I started taking GAC injections and it slowly is helping with my issues quite a bit. I ordered online and inject into fat so that is slowly disburses. I know people use high doses for skin whitening and stuff but I just use a little once a week for health reasons. I also do vitamin B injections once a week. I fast every month or two for 3-5 days and avoid sugar (use natural honey instead if I must use sweetener), flour, processed foods, and only use olive oil if I need oil. I use activated charcoal once a week to lightly brush my teeth to pull out bacteria, I also brush with non fluoride paste. It takes time to detox and get clean but it is worth it. If you do the fasting I would recommend building up to it and not attempting to do multiple days all at once.
    My mother was able to get off diabetes meds uses Keto long term. That is an option to consider.
    I had spinal injury due to the war and I have healed a great deal using the above techniques.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Sandy
    Tammy Carroll
    Tammy Carroll
    2 years ago

    Very thought-provoking and very insightful, I for one applaud your honesty, very brave in the current climate! Thank you x x

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tammy Carroll

    Brave and stupid. So you are one of the anti-vaccine lemmings ready to run over the cliff in support of your new ’cause’? How very noble of you all. The real heroes are the brilliant people who developed these life saving vaccines. There’s a saying that describes you people: “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”. Here, I’ll translate for you weak minded lemmings — you’ve been provided a life saving vaccine and you refuse to be inoculated. Gee, aren’t you special.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    would you trust someone with a criminal record and no liability to give you anything? never mind an injection you cannot undo. Just because they said “this is the cure” sure doesn’t mean it is. When they have been known for lies and corruption, what makes you think THIS biggest money maker ever, is truly honest?

    Paul Martin
    Paul Martin
    2 years ago

    Your article is concise and honest. None the less there are those that are so indoctrinated by propaganda and the sense of “Being a good Citizen” that many of these people are lost. Their Common sense and critical thinking skills have been eradicated by years of psychological aggression.

    Cheers, this was a great article and I will be sharing it as much as possible. I love your passion and commitment to the truth.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    Bravo. Too bad these people won’t follow that link. Maybe it’s because it looks too much like the link that got us here.
    Everyone — it is a point by point rebuttal of the nonsense the author of this article is promoting.
    Don’t believe us. Follow this link and read it.
    I dare you.
    I think I’m done here. (that should provoke some cheers)

    Sue
    Sue
    2 years ago

    Change the title of the article. 18 reasons why I don’t care about my health or yours.

    Binkle
    Binkle
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    Seriously? That’s what you took out of this thoughtful, well-considered and fact-based piece? If you’re so convinced in the power or effectiveness of vaccines, then you shouldn’t worry about whether someone else has been vaccinated or not. That you regard them as a risk suggests you also have little faith in the vaccine that is supposed to protect you. I mean, if it truly was a vaccine (as in, it stops you from getting infected and prevents transmission), you’d have nothing to fear, right? But that’s not happening, is it? It certainly isn’t with these Covid jabs. Vaccines aside, there is so much more to this article that you’ve conveniently ignored. But that’s the nature of those living in a state of unquestioning dutiful ignorance – you’re like frogs in slowly boiling water, completely oblivious to the dangers you’re meekly accepting as normal.

    Sue
    Sue
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Binkle

    The longer the virus has hosts it can continue to morph and mutate. You defeat the virus by denying it a host.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    NOT WITH THIS SHOT THAT IS NOT A VACCINE TO PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING IT OTHERWISE YOUR SHOT WOULD WORK FOR YOU AND YOU WOULD NOT LIVE IN FEAR !!!

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    So you are good right?? You denied your body from being a host???

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    More and more vaccinated people are spreading it and getting sick. The first stories we started getting about it were the plane full of vaccinated democrats fleeing Texas who managed to transmit it to vaccinated people at the White House, and it’s been non stop from there. So vaccinated or not, you’re still a host.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    A strong healthy immune system works better than what the “experimental vax” does or is supposed to do. So if super healthy, isn’t that better than the vax?

    Maintainer747
    Maintainer747
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    My body my choice…..deal with my freedom. If this is truly a vaccine, why are you worried about those who have not taken it? You would be covered right? That is why people take the flu vaccine to protect themselves against others.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    Been raped? Forced to carry a baby? Not even comparable. Ridiculous question

    Tommy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    My body my choice !

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tommy

    Selfish, just selfish

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Maintainer747

    Deal with having some human decency. If wearing a mask keeps someone’s loved one alive or from being deathly ill that’s just to hard. Selfish , stupid , selfish disgusting

    Tommy
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    I wish you would have some human decency and QUIT NAGGING people that you disagree with !

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Tommy

    Because the misinformed is making this go backward, we can get this under control, if not for the selfish, and misinformed. We all suffer prolonging something that we shouldn’t have too because of pretzel logic. Children deserve better

    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Mary

    Mary you’re misinformed, and spewing MSM bullet points doesn’t make you correct. With half the population jabbed and the other half having had the virus we should have herd immunity, right? Well the truth is covid is never going away just like the common cold and flu it mutates to fast to be controlled or cured. Your best bet is to stay healthy, clean, and strong. hopefully the jab doesn’t affect your immune system down the road like so many credible professionals are predicting. Best of luck.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Chad

    Wrong fifty percent does not make herd immunity. Now you check that first, see what you find. Vaccine makes the risk of being hospitalized or result in death minimal. Mask cuts risk of spreading knowingly or not. These things are not the hardest things to do. Happily respectively people should do this for their own and others loved ones, anything less is selfish, thoughtless and ignorant.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    Sue, we seem to be losing the battle on this thread. Too many idiots refuse to admit that we have viable, life saving vaccines and of course they refuse to get vaccinated. Maybe in a year or two those voices will go silent. Survival of the fittest (in this case smartest). You can lead a horse to water …

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    And what this article is telling you Ed, is that dozens of virologists and scientists who have been trying to make an mRNA vaccine for years have not been successful in long term studies. So if they are right, and they have been so far, you’re the one who will be dead or extremely sick in two years Ed.
    Im so glad you have such faith in an experimental vaccine with no long term studies. You go ahead and be a guinea pig Ed. Ignorance is bliss, and you sure are one blissful individual.
    …..and yes, I know, you think I’m an idiot. Anyone who doesn’t agree with all knowing Ed is an idiot. After all, you got the shot and you’re fine, so that applies to everyone, even the ones who died as a direct result of it, and all the vaccinated people spreading it around and getting sick when they thought they were immune. But calling everyone an idiot and trying your best to berate them and make yourself feel superior doesn’t make you right Ed. If they ever make a vaccine for hostility, make sure you get in line a few times.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    Aren’t you the slick debater.
    I don’t think this virus cares what the hell you think.
    It’s not me you should be annoyed with, it is the Chinese, and it is the anti-vaxx crowd that you’ve willingly embraced.

    susan
    susan
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Ed if you are still here, I’d love to chat in 2 years

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    Who has died from being vaccinated. Risk out ways Trump’s the facts. You go and spread knowingly then, and you feel goid about that. What the help is wrong with people. Selfish. No compassion. Ignirance . if you or your children have been vaccinated in childhood you are given pamphlet on risk and the numbers and type of reactions. Never had vaccinations ?

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Push their head and and they come saying ” they are so thirsty”…

    loveyou
    loveyou
    2 years ago

    Finally I read a text written by a smart person

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  loveyou

    You did? Where? No, seriously.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    YES SERIOUSLY YOUR IN DENIAL !!!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    Says the anti-vaxxer!!
    That’s precious.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  loveyou

    SAME HERE,THESE PEOPLE ARE KNUCKLE HEADS

    Marty Peters
    Marty Peters
    2 years ago

    Beautifully written! Thank you!

    Daryl
    Daryl
    2 years ago

    I don’t want the vaccine, I believe it should be our choice. Where I work may soon put out that we either become vaccinated or frequently tested. I will chose testing. What if they change their minds and say you have to be vaccinated? What can I do. There are too many unknowns and it hasn’t even been approved. Also, why would I be made to become vaccinated when illegals are crossing our borders sick and unvaccinated?

    Average American
    Average American
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Daryl

    “…illegals are crossing our borders sick and unvaccinated?”
    Didn’t you read the article? Who do you think will be helping to bury all the bodies in this country next year?

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Daryl

    “Also, why would I be made to become vaccinated when illegals are crossing our borders sick and unvaccinated?”
    Duh. That’s precisely why you should rush to get vaccinated.
    What is wrong with you people? Do you have a death wish?
    Rebels without a clue?
    No really. Explain it to me.

    SANDI
    SANDI
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    PEOPLE BY THE THOUSAND ARE STILL GETTING COVID WITH THE SHOTS !!

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  SANDI

    And they are surviving, with no need to be hospitalized. That was the promise. Those getting covid without the shots are hospitalized and fighting for their lives. See the difference?

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Wrong Ed. Go check your data again bud. Vaccinated people hospitalized and dead Ed. Backfire effect again Ed.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    Where oh where do you get that at. You go check real facts..hurry go do that

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    No one can explain anything to you Ed. You know it all already.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Pamelot

    Thank you. I do know enough to stay healthy.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    That’s totally not true, Che k you misinformed.

    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Daryl

    You are wrong about borders. They are tested all unvaccinated should just not be social and wear masks. But they are the people that as of yet wear a mask.

    John
    John
    2 years ago

    This is a ‘type’ of what is biblically foretold . . .the mark of the beast. No man shall buy sell or trade unless he has the mark in his hand or his forehead. Revelation 13:16-18 Yes we do need a vaccine, but the campaign to get everyone to get one and the force we are presently under and the force that is accelerating gives one pause to the ‘experiment’ of it all. An experiment in making people obey. At this point who knows. Have faith in God and pray that He protect you in this troubled time.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  John

    You better pray real hard. Me? I’ve a nasty vaccinated sinner.
    I like my chances better than yours.

    Pamelot
    Pamelot
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Ed

    Look at the statistics Ed. I mean really look at available data from the CDC and read it, don’t just look at it. It’s funny watching you argue about proven data and get so cranky about it.

    Sue
    Sue
    2 years ago
    Reply to  John
    Mary
    Mary
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue

    That is wrong , not factual. Stupid rumor.

    Ed
    Ed
    2 years ago
    Reply to  Sue
    Chad
    Chad
    2 years ago
    Reply to  John

    And pray for ED he really needs it.

    Deb
    Deb
    2 years ago

    Very helpful, thanks for outlining all these points in one place, and linking out to your sources.

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