The CDC Suddenly Changes the Definition of ‘Vaccine’ and ‘Vaccination’

By Nick Arama, Red State

Matt Margolis over at our sister site PJ Media has picked up on a very interesting change on the CDC website when it comes to the definitions for “vaccine” and “vaccination.”

The timing of the change is very interesting.

He notes that it would appear that the CDC is trying to change how we understand the concept of vaccinations.

He highlights the definition of terms on August 26, 2021.

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

That had been their definition since at least May 16, 2018, according to PJ Media.

But then, come September 1, suddenly there was a big change.

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

Why are they trying to back off of what the definitions used to be? Now they are talking about a vaccine stimulating the immune response but not to “produce immunity.” Now they’re saying a vaccination doesn’t produce immunity but will “produce protection.”

Thomas Massie
Check out @CDCgov’s evolving definition of “vaccination.” They’ve been busy at the Ministry of Truth:


They appear to be changing the definition to fit what we’re being told about the COVID-19 vaccines — that they don’t necessarily provide immunity but just “protection” from more serious illness. Meanwhile, it fits with the push for more “booster” shots, to keep up the continued “protection.” So they’ve changed the definition of vaccines so that it no longer means preventing the disease or producing immunity. Whereas before it wouldn’t necessarily meet their definition of a vaccine, now it meets the new definition.

We’ve seen the CDC have wrong (bigger) numbers for COVID deaths in Florida (what a coincidence). We’ve seen them falsely claim that the Delta variant is as contagious as chicken pox. Now we see them redefining words to better fit what they’re pushing with the COVID “vaccine.” Is this one more effort to control the narrative?

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Ed Risko

So according to the cdc definition, vitamins, like D and C, are vaccines because they are introduced to the body to stimulate an immune response. Right. And so must be exercise and a healthy diet. Lol


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MIT scientist just said on FOX AVOID USE IN CHILDREN!

R. H. McGraw

“Following the science” has become such a joke that clueless individuals are using these days. First of all, the experimental chemicals (read “vaccines”) being injected into lab ra.. uh, US citizens are reportedly antibody cocktails (regardless of their source). Antibodies are proteins that slowly but surely get metabolized and therefore have a definite half-life. Duh… and when that initial injection antibodies is reduced to very low residual amounts, of course you will have to have the “boosters” to restore any protective levels of antibodies. When these subsequent experimental chemicals are likewise metabolized, the individual will be forced to get booster #2, #3, #4… ad infinitum ad nauseium. The touted m-RNA experimental chemicals supposedly enter the body cells and direct the production of antibodies against a disease organism. Well, these m-RNA doses likewise get metabolized such that subsequent additional “booster” injections are required. The stupidity of this is that a rapidly mutating Sars-CoV-2 virus will surely form yet another variant soon, and be potentially just as deadly if not more so than Omicron, the original Alpha virus. So a spiraling and ever-widening flood tide of additional injections will become the norm forever. The CDC even had to go so far as to CHANGE THE DEFINITION of what a “Vaccine” is in order to put that label on the experimental chemicals now being injected into US citizens.They are NOT VACCINES, they have NOT BEEN TESTED (as per other drugs for certification) for long-term consequences of use. The “emergency use authorization” label given to these experimental chemicals is literally a ploy to avoid litigation on big pharm for any liability. Wake up, people!!!

Cathy Adams

I’m of the belief that millimeter waves are what’s causing people to get sick, the symptoms of radiation poisoning and Covid are exactly the same. The use of radio waves, at a specific frequency, will activate the viral vectors, the nano tubes and because the GRAPHENE is an excellent transmitter of electric current, once 5G is active world wide, we will see these genetically engineered gene therapy monstrosities causing unimaginable damage to humanity itself. Because Actually it’s not a vaccine, it’s an operating system cum gene therapy, and the graphene is used as a carrier for the nano tech and the immortal hydra (yes I said hydra), as well as the viral vectors such as inactivated as the graphene can penetrate the blood brain barrier, where it sits while the viral vector or hydra attacks the brain. Why we allow these monsters to do this to people is beyond my comprehension.


A new entry for the biggest idiot. Good job Cathy Adams!

Cant you tell us what that specific frequency is? No? Of course not.

Robyn Nadel

5G can cimmunicate with graphene oxide crystals forming at the base of the pineal gland. Swabs with PCR testing have shown in studies to ineffective as far as accuracy and were never developed for determing the presence of a virus..

Mike Smith

Believing the idiots again? Sorry you can’t figure out reality for yourself. Must suck to have to rely on conspiracy websites for your “perspectives.”

Robyn Nadel

Excellent i appreciate all feed back however.i obey to Gods law not humans..I consult w Him on a regular basis. I have Faith over Fear..God Bless you.

Robyn Nadel

Isaiah 8:12-13
“Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’ Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow; Let Him be your fear, And let Him be your dread.


James 1:26 and 1:27

Mike Smith

The actual proper translation is:

“Don’t call something a rebellious plot, just because they do, and don’t be afraid of something, just because they are.”

So all these CJ readers who claim COVID and the vaccines are rebellious plots are sinning against our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thank you SO MUCH, Robyn Nader, for proving my point. All you conspiracy nuts are clearly going to hell for your sins. Sinners repent!!!



Robyn Nadel

Thank you for posting..You are a very intelligent, please get this info out asap to the public.. b4 we all become susceptible to 5G contol.. Any knowledge on Luciferase( patent #666) irinically.. ? Would love to hear ur opinion or knowledge on this.

Mike Smith

Paranoid much?

Robyn Nadel

Elihu Condemns Self-Righteousness
JOB 35
Moreover Elihu answered and said:

2 “Do you think this is right?
Do you say,
‘My righteousness is more than God’s’?
3 For (A)you say,
‘What advantage will it be to You?
What profit shall I have, more than if I had sinned?’

4 “I will answer you,
And (B)your companions with you.
5 (C)Look to the heavens and see;
And behold the clouds—
They are higher than you.
6 If you sin, what do you accomplish (D)against Him?
Or, if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to Him?
7 (E)If you are righteous, what do you give Him?
Or what does He receive from your hand?
8 Your wickedness affects a man such as you,
And your righteousness a son of man.

9 “Because(F) of the multitude of oppressions they cry out;
They cry out for help because of the arm of the mighty.
10 But no one says, (G)‘Where is God my Maker,
(H)Who gives songs in the night,
11 Who (I)teaches us more than the beasts of the earth,
And makes us wiser than the birds of heaven?’
12 (J)There they cry out, but He does not answer,
Because of the pride of evil men.
13 (K)Surely God will not listen to empty talk,
Nor will the Almighty regard it.
14 (L)Although you say you do not see Him,
Yet justice is before Him, and (M)you must wait for Him.
15 And now, because He has not (N)punished in His anger,
Nor taken much notice of folly,
16 (O)Therefore Job opens his mouth in vain
He multiplies words without knowledge.”

Jennifer Jones Smith

stupid, filthy, small hat, dirty ___ much???

James Stewart

These ‘quaccines’ have so many sinister components within them. Dr.
Andreas Noack did his thesis for his PhD on converting graphene oxide, to graphene HYDROXIDE, which he said was indestructible, and proven through microspectroscopy to be in the vaccines, in the form of NANO SIZED (50 nm x ONE molecule) RAZOR BLADES. He said this damages arteries and capillaries, causing clotting, thromboses, and death to athletes. He was killed hours later, according to his wife. Check out graphene hydroxide, and Dr. Andreas Noack while you can. I believe THIS does not strengthen anyone’s immunity, and he was killed to hide his message.

Trucker Tom

Yeah, not so much James.

Here’s the non-tin-hat version of the story, aka reality for those of you who have drunk the kool aid.

Desiste Macintosh

Don’t be silly. Fact checkers are just hired prostitutes who are paid to give opinions on behalf of the very people conspiring. And the masses drink the Kool Aid, not the people asking questions. You even used the hackneyed tin foil snub which shows your unoriginality and programming by the oligarch culture creators.


Fact checkers are whores? Takes one to know one I guess.

Patriot Eric

Did she hit a nerve Vern?? LOL, you must be one of the “Fact Checkers” ….

Robyn Nadel

This is the real demon.


Slight of hand, slight of mind.


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Its absolutely criminal what they are doing..i want the people Fauci and Biden to get vaccinated in front of millions via Internet ..we the people get to choose which vaccine they get from these vaccine stations..not some placebo shot..i doubt the people orchestrating this are vaxxed themselves..curious hmmmm


And just to think, i’ve been shamed because i have not gotten the vaccine.


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Hal Carter

We have been told for years that a “Virus” cannot be killed and that there is no vaccination that will provide immunity from a Virus. Viruses are different from Bacteria. According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary: “While both can cause disease, viruses are not living organisms, whereas bacteria are. Viruses are only “active” within host cells which they need to reproduce, while bacteria are single-celled organisms that produce their own energy and can reproduce on their own. Bacteria serve many vital roles in nature outside of being infectious.” Example, there is no cure for the common cold created by a virus. Conclusion : Vaccinations to kill and create immunity against non living organisms (Virus) won’t work. Government control using fear.



Looks like Hal Carter flunked high school biology.

I wonder how he thinks all the other vaccines that protect HIM from viral disease work. Stupid and ungrateful.


Viruses are not living organisms. Are you disagreeing with that?

Jeffrey Mahan

Then why don’t you get the measles or polio? How did you actually write that response with a straight face?

Kevin Nelson

Sanitation and nutrition. How you you point to diseases that you have no understating of? The symptoms of Polio were reclassified into 7 different other diseases when it was magically eradicated. Measles cases are so far an few between they haven’t been a threat to the first world country’s because we have better standards of sanitation and nutrition than we did 100 years ago. Learn history not propaganda.

Robyn Nadel



I’m in minnesota, and sure enough, the somali population is bringing back all the old favorites.- measles, whooping cough. there signs at walgreens stating they do injections supposedly to vaccinate.

edited mispell of whooping

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Robyn Nadel

your body builds immunity .this JAB is the enemy


Hal, I have to say you’re right, the government is controlling using fear. I suggest you to all research about stock holdings of pfizer and others amongst congress.

Robyn Nadel

look up the patents..follow the money trail


Some journalist should ask which “vaccines” have proven less effective than these for COVID?

If these “vaccines” don’t produce immunity, but protection… they sound like… condoms… errrr… contraception. So they’re not vaccines but COVID contraceptives. Used to diminish the likelihood of COVID.

They’re far, far, far less effective than contraceptives used to prevent pregnancy… and they come with serious, even fatal side effects.

Think if birth control was let out on the market with this type of record of failure and injury?


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Ken Shields

I can’t find the original source document with the changed definition. Anybody got a link?


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This is insanity! I heard on a radio show off a popular lefties jedi yesterday… They were arguing about Aaron rodgers why claimed he was vaccinated but still caught cocks. Which of course l can happen! Because nothing they were officially saying it’s real! One of the co-hosts says” yeah, but be said he got inoculated” you could hear the gaspñ the other two co-hosts jumped real quick to fix his words. Immunized, yeah yeah vaccinated. Asu that point the guy backtracks and says he’ll your right. Inoculation is what my grandma used to do, or something like that, he treated the word as if it were outdated and wrong.
They are attempting to change reality as we go in and effort to bottom line hey whatever they want… Even if it doesn’t make sense l! Move if this makes sense


OK here’s one for the conspiracy theorists camp.

Say I was intending to commit mass genocide (like never seen before) on the worlds population by releasing a lab-made virus. Surely I would want to be targeting the haters, the individual’s who will rebel and become a tyrant to the new world.

So why not allow the people who can be controlled much easier, the opportunity to take a Covid vaccine to protect (immune) themselves from the impending ‘fatal’ lab-made virus that will be unleashed on the population in the very near future and which will secure the fate of the unvaccinated.

This way, we come to the same conspiracy goal of greatly reducing the population, but without any obvious finger of blame, as everyone would believe they only had themselves to blame for not following the guidance.

A conspiracy within a conspiracy.


John, this much more plausible then a vaccine for a 99% survival virus.


Its 2021, no plausible theory is off the table. Maybe its the same with masks.

Robyn Nadel

Masks (blue) and the swabs contain Graphene oxide as well

Robyn Nadel

B’cause the vax isnt about health it is control via AI..hence them collecting data via cell phones. Its easier to record w pin point accuracy when folks are 6 feet apart distancing..


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They have never been able to isolate the virus therefore making all of this illegal and are considered crimes against humanity.


“FU” cdc and all your gov. agencies with you!!!


FU are the only initials I trust.

Robyn Nadel

Keep up the fight..with prayer God will take care of the murdering deceiful lies being dispensed at our expense..this is your life own it

No, thanks

Apparently there are different definitions. Here’s one that has further info on different vaccines and their actions
However, the CDC isn’t as forthcoming.

Also found in: DictionaryThesaurusAcronymsEncyclopediaWikipedia.
Related to vaccine: HPV vaccinePolio vaccine

vaccine [vak-sēn´] 
a suspension of attenuated or killed microorganisms (viruses, bacteria, or rickettsiae), administeredfor prevention, amelioration, or treatment of infectious diseases.


The mRNA substance is NOT a vaccine as it was previously defined (pre-2015). This is part of the scam. Change the ground rules. Now you can inject a “substance” to trigger an immune response. So in essence, if I want to inject Windex to get a response it becomes a vaccine. Anything you inject triggers an immune response!!! So bug bites are vaccines, now?!! This is so outrageous. I can’t believe this has not been fought.

larry g hesseltine

true, and I do not need bugs or windex to live.

not disclosing

thank you for the real information

kim shuler

My sister, brother, and I all had to have vaccine booster shots for the measles vaccine back in 1977 when a cousin of ours came up to North Carolina from Florida for a visit and brought her son who was infected with measles. My siblings and I had all had the initial vaccines but not the boosters. They caught the measles, I did not, because I was living in a college dorm at the time, less than a mile away. I got the booster at the health department. Their pediatrician made the call to give them theirs, too, just in case, I think. So boosters have been around for awhile.


The difference is that the measles vaccine IS a true vaccine. The covid shot is NOT a vaccine despite them calling it that. It does NOT give immunity, it does NOT keep you from catching it, it does NOT keep you from spreading it and the jury is still out on whether it offers any protection at all. Considering 98%-99% of people who DO get Covid recover without issue…how will we ever know that the vaccinated who catch Covid wouldn’t have recovered in the exact same way without the vaccine? The answer is we won’t ever know.

Robyn Nadel

Amen!! Thank u for pointing that out


They also changed the definition for ‘pandemic” & “herd immunity” too! All to fit the scam.


does anyone have a source to this via CDC?


Why don’t you do your own research?


Dont be a dick.

bide is a thief

do your own research lazy ass



Globalresearch ca is a good source of information


If you get the polio vaccine, you will not get polio. If you get the rubella vaccine, you will not get rubella. If you get a flu shot, you may still get the flu. If you get a COVID shot, you can still get COVID. I think we know what a vaccine is…. these COVID shots are not vaccines.


flu and covid ‘vaccines’ are obviously the way to keep billionaires…billionaires

James Davison

Correct, the covid jabs are NOT VACCINES! By definition, a vaccine contains a small component of the virus. The Covid shot does not contain the virus to create immunity…
Of note, if you are a “Right to Life” believer, you should know that aborted fetus stem cells are part of the J & J Covid “vaccine!”

Robyn Nadel

Its such a diversion..Satan is winning folks..wake up..its all very clear


Polio came back BECAUSE OF THE VACCINES. Man you people

Jenni J

My physician just explained this to me relating to the shingles “shot”! He never mentioned Covid…but I got it!


The CDC just shot themselves in the foot, with this one. They want to play WORD GAMES…….and they just LOST! Changing ‘immunity’ to ‘PROTECTION’ is a win for HUMANS! Now, with the ‘PROTECTION’ definition, Vitamin C is now a ‘vaccine’ for Scurvy (as an example). Vitamin C gives one PROTECTION FROM SCURVY. SO, all of the vitamins, clean water and CLEAN FOOD that I consume are now ‘vaccines’ against the ‘big, bad virus’, since those PROTECT ME from getting sick. (I haven’t had the Common Cold in more than 10 years!) 
I, for one, welcome the ‘new definition’ because it now defines the things that I do to PROTECT myself from colds/flu as ‘vaccines’. 


Let’s go ahead and use your definition and quantify the effectiveness of each of your “vaccines”

Level of ‘PROTECTION’ from COVID:

Pfizer vaccine: 94% (77% Delta variant after 6 months)
Moderna vaccine: 93% (92% Delta variant after 6 months)
J&J vaccine: 68%
Vitamins: ~0%
Clean Water: ~0%

Yeah, they’re all the same. Good put DawnieR.


You have that all backwards, sweetie. And you might just want to READ….#1 these Bio-weapon makers OWN PUBLICATIONS, and #2 what REAL Doctors and REAL News are reporting.


Pfizer: 0%
Moderna: 0%
J&J: 0%
Vitamins: 100%
Clean Water: 100%
Clean Food: 100%

So, please explain to me, if these EXPERIMENTAL (BIO-WEAPON) INJECTION(S) ‘protect’ SO WELL……WHY is it that 75% to 99% of those NOW GETTING ILL are those who HAVE BEEN INJECTED??? And the remaining %, getting ill, who have NOT been Injected, are getting sick FROM those who HAVE BEEN INJECTED?! It IS the INJECTED who are now getting ill….AND…..INFECTING (aka Super Spreaders) those who have NOT been injected! Those are what we call INDISPUTABLE FACTS. Israel is the PERFECT ‘Indisputable Facts’ example. MOST of that country is now SICK…..BECAUSE they had been Injected. And they ARE DYING.

ALL of the REAL Doctors, who are being CENSORED (gee….if these EXPERIMENTAL INJECTIONS work SO WELL, then WHY do they NEED to CENSOR OTHERS??), are all over the NO CENSOR video/social media sites. Brighteon, Bitchute, Rumble, Gab video, ect.
Any SANE individual would be taking the info from REAL Doctors, vs the QUACKS being PAID by Big Pharma (& Govts) to MURDER people. The GOOD thing about these Experimental (Bio-Weapon) Injections? Is that the Low IQ have all gotten them, and will be MURDERED (die) by these injections in the near future. We now find ourselves in this TYRANNICAL MESS, that the planet is now in, BECAUSE OF Low IQ Individuals; retarded 3 year olds who CLAIM to be ADULTS, that have NO CLUE what is going on around them!

Desiste Macintosh

Great reply!

Robyn Nadel

You Rock!! Thank you so much!!


As far as I know, the Pfizer protection against disease is less than 40% – based on Israel data and before 3rd dose. And of course all the people that previously have had covid and were vaccinated – rise the overall effectiveness of all covid vaxes.
About Moderna and J&J ‘vax’ – lets give at least one year to discuss the real effectiveness, as, besides Israel, other countries haven’t used one particular vaccine…

About clean water and food and vitamins – let’s check, if the vaccine will save you, when you will not use clean water, clean food and will not use vitamins, ok? Actually there is one simple way to do mental excercise – look at the list of poor countries, where is lack of clean water/food and therefore – vitamins and ask yourself – is there the morbidity/mortality rate higer, or lower than in countries with higher income?


Yawn. Tell it to another conspiracy monger. I’m sticking with facts, data, and reality.


Reality aka what the news tells you


No, I mean reality. Truth. The opposite of the lies OAN and Citizens Opinion tell you, YuTwat.


So do you have any examples of actual lies from OAN, or just your opinion. HUGE difference!!!

Robyn Nadel

Be nice..why are you so angry


Reality aka what your conspiracy website tells you


Brought to you by Pfizer.

Bob M

Stop watching the bs on CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, or reading The Atlantic Mag. etc. They are the masters of propagada by keeping us in fear. History all over again. They are paroting the exact same narative from the DNC and idiots like Gates, Soros, and the late night talk shows that can only hate Trump and make fun of the salt of the earth silent Majority. Get some perspective from Brighteon, Parler, Mark Dice on YouTube, Gab, and 95 more sites if you do a search for top 100 conservative websites on Duckduckgo or even Google. but I’m surprised they haven’t kicked Dice off. You will be amazed if you just open your mind to the possibilities of what is really happening but be warned, it’s so surreal you won’t believe it. The good news is the word is getting our to the masses and people are changing their opinions slowly but surely. The Dems are scared shitless their New World Order will crash. We are definately headed towards WW III. Get your act together asap or you won’t have an act. Best of Luck to you and all of us to keep our way of life and not be taken over by the Chinese and real foreign and domestic enemies. it’s all as real as you can only imagine. Right now there’s 2 basic groups of people in the US. People who know and People who don’t know(and worst of all they think they do!!)


I’m not scared. Must only be you, Snowflake.

You need to do a lot more research you dolt.

Robyn Nadel

REALLY? Name callin..I hope you can see someday..I pray for you to see the truth.


You are so right on!
I just finished
‘The Real Anthony Fauci ‘
By Robert F Kennedy Jr.
Scared me to death!

Robyn Nadel

Did u cut n paste that..?? Can u back your post w evidence ,real evidence! Id love to see what your research reveals ,outside of what the media is force feeding you..

Robyn Nadel

Do you believe in miracle drugs that stand the test of time? i.e. penicillan and aspirin? Tested for years ..Tried n true and have saved many lives..TESTED BEING THE KEY WORD.. Curious about your beliefs.

George Pattone

Yep… One big Psyop to control the narrative for the medical tyranny Trojan horse that Communism rides in on…


Everything goes to keep the narrative/agenda going… Over- and Under reporting of covid cases/deaths and taking away constitutional rights (etc.) to push vaccination of the whole population of which not even 1 percent is at risk for this virus (and vaccination will keep this fake ‘pandemic’ going forever). Should be obvious by now, but it isn’t. AMAZING!


Yes, because the U.S. government has never decided to do unethical things to U.S. citizens. Have you ever looked up the Tuskegee experiments? You underestimate the evil that lives in this world, it is organized and it doesn’t care about anyone.

Robyn Nadel

God Bless us All..its just so sinful and most are being deceived by the enemy..Who is great at creating doubt and deceiving Gods people..Those deceived are who we shld pray for their salvation mercy and grace..Hat the sin love and pray for the sinner..please everyone..prayer works..

Mike Smith

Absolutely agree. Citizens Journal is evil, spreading their self-serving lies to all the good God fearing people of Ventura County in order to line their own pockets. But in the end they will all have to face their own reckoning before God. We all know they’re going straight to hell for lying to good Christians.

Thanks for pointing out how evil these demons are.

Mike Smith

There are banner and pop up ads all over this website. Please don’t insult us by claiming no one’s making money.


Robyn Nadel


Robyn Nadel

Exactly. MIKE twisted my comment to fit his agenda..of course